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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Azshann Why would any ADULT leave this game and go back to another MMO?
Because maybe they got tired of this one no matter how engaging and complex for one that is a bit lighter on the work load but heavier on the fun factor?
I'm currently enjoying the lotro f2p deal as my eve characters all keep skilling up afk. And no you can't have my stuff as I didnt 'quit'. ;p ZOMG!!! |

Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba ForumWhoor on 15/09/2010 07:35:13
Originally by: mechtech Eve-Online has been steadily gaining subscribers for 5 years straight, and now sits at a very healthy 350,000 subscribers (of course keep in mind eve is very alt account-centric).
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png
Once we finally get avatars and walking in stations, expect the subscriber count to explode. Lack of avatar is what keeps many people mmo fans away from eve.
Tbh this is exactly what the game has needed so ccp can finally have a massive budget to pimp the game in ways they have been wanting to do since it was in beta.
Think of this milestone as one of many they had to cross on the way from indie niche mmo to mainstream big budget mmo. A rather hard road I would think given the nature of the playerbase. 
Originally by: Guilliman R
Originally by: Verrenici Because EVE is hard and unforgiving, and the average gamer of today is a characterless, soulless creature who prefers the cheap and easy win over the challenging loss.
Not that they will ever admit that; they'll tell you it's because it doesn't have orcs.
This. It does require quite a bit of more timer per play session too though. Been in that boat myself, quiting for several months at a time because Anything in EVE requires longer play sessions.
For example, I could log into WoW, do an instance or a battleground for 15-20 mins and finish it. In EVE you're easily busy for an hour or more on anything serious pvp related.
The problem with this is that the majority of this hour or more is the bog standard military 'hurry up and wait' syndrome. ie it takes 45 minutes of organizing for the 15 minutes of fun. Not saying this is generally a bad thing but there is something to be said for 'near' instant gratification in a game after all. ZOMG!!! |

Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666 The problem CCP have, with aiming to expand the player base, is that Eve currently fills a niche game market. It fills that niche really well - so dont call me a hate ccp cause it's popular forum troll. Whilst expanding, CCP are in danger of losing that special eve niche and becoming another generic MMO. The sort that attract 100k new players in 3 months and then disapoint 95k of those 100k and then become financially insolvent.
This problem is common in any business that aims to have rapid expansion, I hope CCP are doing cross industry networking with businesses that have successfully gone from being niche players to market heavy weights.
Personally I don't see this issue at all. The sandbox nature of the game means that they can literally fit an infinite amount of playstyles into the game without stepping on anyones toes. Basically if someone is interested in a particular corner of the sandbox then they will go over and play in it despite the other corner full of the kids doing crap they don't particularly care for. So as long as ccp makes it viable to go over to the other corner and kick some sand around then all will be well. ZOMG!!! |

Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor So as long as ccp makes it viable to go over to the other corner and kick some sand around then all will be well.
This is where they will fall over.
Quite frankly the ongoing stats decline to submit to your 'logic'. Though this new incarna stuff has yet to be seen so I will waffle and pass any judgment until then. ZOMG!!! |

Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.16 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor So as long as ccp makes it viable to go over to the other corner and kick some sand around then all will be well.
This is where they will fall over.
Quite frankly the ongoing stats decline to submit to your 'logic'. Though this new incarna stuff has yet to be seen so I will waffle and pass any judgment until then.
Inability to deal with lag is a very real example of: unviable to go to a corner and kick sand around.
Yeah, the fleet fight lag corner.. Like all the new players would care or even know about that particular corner of the game for years anyways as they will be too busy playing in the other lag free corners of the game. Unless of course hopping in a cap ship and blobbing a pos or some unfortunate ratter is now considered part of the new or even not so new player experience.  ZOMG!!! |
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